Mixing Coolant Types

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Mixing Coolant Types

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Jack Mayer
07 July 2010
08:21 AM
OK, I have a friend that has the Orange coolant in his truck.  Other than that he has no knowledge of the type/brand.

He added some of the "universal" premixed coolant to it.  This says on the bottle that it is for any car or light truck.

Problem, or not?  (This is a Volvo engine. 660, pre-emission) Please don't guess, but if you KNOW something he would appreciate an answer. Randy?  I'll bet you know a lot about this....

Bill B
07 July 2010
09:50 AM
Jack - is that orange or red?

There is a lot more than just grabbing a jug of stuff and dumping it in the engine.

2 years ago, I had to re-sleeve a JD diesel backhoe that used "normal" (non-diesel) green antifreeze that the SCA additives had not been added or tested (it was bought used so history is a murky thing - testing showed that the coolant was generic automotive ethylene glycol).  The problem with "automotive" antifreeze is that the diesel detonations will cause cavitation and "eat" holes through the cylinder walls.  Anti freeze is formulated for the use intended.

Also watch your coolant filter.  Many come with SCA additives that are NOT good to mix with the Organic Acid Coolants (ELC's).

With a $15,000 ~ engine I am going to take a chance on bad coolant?

Let me pose another question.  Why do you use diesel oil (Rotella, Delvac) with an API (American Petroleum Institute) oil rated for C* (G thru J+) instead of S* (F thru I+)? C rating is for Compression ignition engines, S is for Spark ignition engines.

Orange Might be Dexcool.

Ford does mention it in the diesel supplement book (does not highlight it though).  It will eat a GM block.  Most take the attitude that if you buy a diesel - know what you are buying.

LarryandLinda
07 July 2010
10:37 AM
Jack
If it was me I'd drain and flush it so I would know what I have(which is what I did when I purchased our truck).  I don't think this is an area we should guess at.
Larry
Jack Mayer
07 July 2010
02:41 PM
I agree Larry, and if it was MY truck I would FIRST at least identify what I had in it if I could.  But I would then flush it.

In this case, I have no control over the matter.  He added some car coolant to it - about a little over a gallon of premix universal.  He IS taking it to my Colorado Springs mechanic tomorrow (for other reasons) and he will ask him about the situation.  Personally, I would flush it.

RWinslow
08 July 2010
10:14 PM
Flush it. . . . several times.  According to Cummins, the largest contributing factor to diesel engine failure is improper antifreeze and or depleted anti-freeze.

The damage is not always immediate.

B Gafka
09 July 2010
08:54 AM
Was at my local Volvo dealer AND we got on this very subject.  Do not mix coolants as it can eat out the bottom of your radiator.  And make sure you buy the right filter.  He liked Texaco
Jack Mayer
09 July 2010
09:25 AM
Well, the antifreeze tested OK, as I would expect.  The mechanic said with the small amount added that he would not flush it.  Especially since it was the universal mix style.  Personally, I'd still flush it and put new in...especially since this truck has been owned for 2 years and there is no knowledge of when it was previously done.  The truck also has BAD algae in the tanks....that is being addressed.