Replacing Steer Tires

Replacing Steer Tires

Replacing Steer Tires

autoshift
29 June 2009
05:13 PM
I came out this morning and found the left front steer tire flat.  Jacked it up & found a bubble and a hole.  I called around and found Bridgestone & Yokahama tires.

Has anyone replaced their steer tires with either of these brands?

Also is anyone carrying a spare steer tire on your HDT?

Just Enough
29 June 2009
06:48 PM
I just purchased the Yoko RY617 we have 5k on them.  They ride real smooth and the general consensus is it is a good bang for your buck on longevity.  They where so good that when they balanced them on the machine they did not need any weights.  I was real impressed with that.

We had a bad experience with Bridgestone (tread separation)  Beside that they are even more than the Michelin in some areas.

We considered the Michelin, but the price was not justifiable for our use.

I think you will be pleased with the price a quality of the Yoko tire.

We do not carry a spare.  We have 8 tires on the rear if we get in a pinch. I have all the tools to swap one on the road.

D K.
29 June 2009
09:21 PM
I have been VERY happy with the Bridgestone 299's I have on our WIA. They were less than Michelins, but have given me excellent wear and service life to date.  I do prefer Michelin and Yokohama most of the time, but the 299 Bridgestones have been a good tire for the fleet my dad works for, so I gave them a try.  His fleet runs several hundred trucks with Michelin, Yokohama, and Bridgestone.  All have served them well, usually running to 25% tread on the steer positions, then moved to a trailer position for the rest of it's virgin tread life, then they are capped for drive tires and run out again.  They do not cap their casings more than once, they sell them for casing credit at that point, but they are more than serviceable for a 2nd capping.

Brands  I would not use whatsoever are Kumho and anything with a casing Manufacture of Origin from China.  This is MORE important to me than the brand itself, my dad at one time had a stack of failed Chinese casings that their trailers equipped with at purchase.  Warranty or prorating them has proved problematic, which since some of them are brand name, is not a good sign.  Watch carefully what you're getting sold, check it PRIOR to mounting.  Once you have them on your vehicle, few shops will take them off.

I am paranoid, I carry 2 mounted drive tires (recaps) one loose steer tire that is about 50% tread life.  I also have a BIG trailer though, so room is not an issue.  If I had to carry only one spare, it would be a used steer tire on a mounted rim so I could place it in any position, either steer or drives. If you buy new tires, keep one of your old steers for this purpose, the amount of casing credit you might get for it is nothing compared to what you'll end up paying for a used one on the roadside from a tire service.  If anything it gives you options so you can make a decision at leisure,  NOT on the side of the road with a knee jerk reaction to a road hazard.

NUKE8
30 June 2009
10:47 AM
Soooo . . . .
If you did have to replace a steer in the middle of nowhere at midnight, do you take a rear inside tire, put it up front?  Will the deep dish outside rear fit back on without the inside tire, without going through all the threads?

At this point, what size (deep) socket do I need now since only one tire in on the rear and at what torques do the nuts needs (front and back duals)? Just curious since I'm sure I won't change them neither do I have the proper hammer.
Thanks!
Ken.

D K.
30 June 2009
11:39 AM
Unless you have virgin casings on your drives, you CAN NOT place them on a steer axle, BAD BAD things happen when a recap is scrubbed under a steering spindle, along with it being against the rules.  This is why I recommend you carry a mounted STEER tire on a rim so you can place it anywhere on the truck.  Rims on HDTs are interchangeable to any position, just like a dually pickup truck.  The only difference you need to worry about is the tire design, steer verses drive pattern and virgin verses recaps.  If you have aluminum rims all around the truck, the
odds of a tire being out of balance are less than with steel wheels, but not a guarantee.

If you have a steer go down in the middle of the night, the last thing you want to be doing is swapping tires around from various positions on the truck.  This is why I feel carrying a mounted steer tire is the best prevention plan you can have.  Even with a roadside service truck responding to your flat call, you will still be waiting a while for them
to swap the tire over.  Some are good enough to spoon the bad tire off of the rim while still on the truck, but don't count on that as typical..  Plenty of others will keep the timer running as long as possible to get more of your money.  Mounted spares keep that type of game to a minimum.

If you decide to wrestle tires yourself, keep in mind the weight of a mounted wheel and tire on these trucks, it is far from something most do it yourselfer's can handle alone.  I am not small, 6'2" and around 190 lbs. wet.  I can not lift a mounted tire by myself to a deck, I have to use a come along to drag it onto my truck's deck.  Letting one of these things roll out of your hand on the road will not be a fun event, they are more than enough to total out a Toyota Camry that is passing by at 70 to 80 mph.  Murphy's law dictates it will happen.  Make sure you have an
adequate lifting solution on hand to get the flat tire off the ground. You might get lucky and swap a drive position wheel to another spot, but you have to do something with the flat tire once you have the truck rolling again.  This is not something you want to problem solve after the fact.

Gemstone
30 June 2009
09:01 PM
I carry a new, matching steer tire, no wheel. ERS will do the mounting on the side of the road, and a steer can become a drive tire in a pinch.  Carrying my own tire will prevent having to buy some unknown used casing (at a high price) provided by the ERS, only to be changed out again when I did find a matching tire.
Regards
Gemstone
Just Enough
05 July 2009
09:25 PM
I have virgin drives and have moved the around a few times.  I just have nowhere for a spare tire of our size.

Even if you have the spare you will need to dismount the tire and remount the new one.  If you can do that, you should have no problem removing a outer duel and move it to the front to get you to a good location to buy a replacement.  There is no way a drive tire (virgin) can be a problem in a hundred or so miles to get back to civilization versus lugging around a heavy a** tire indefinitely.

I carry a spare for the fiver because there are no other options but to have a spare.

I am a very impatient person and I would just as soon change my own tire than wait 2-3 hours for some repair service to come out and break something or soak me with a bill that Coach Net will not cover.

I have a 33mm 3/4 drive socket, a 4' torque wrench and breaker bar to get me back on the road.